From: vaxine!encore!ihnp4!hoptoad!newage (New Age Negotiator)
New Age Summation #38
Moderator: newage@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney)
uucp: ihnp4,lll-crg,well,ptsfa,frog!hoptoad!newage
arpa: hoptoad!newage@lll-crg.arpa
Tue May 13 22:33:07 PDT 1986
Tonight:
Selection from Eckankar Builder
Variant in Locale/Energy
Grove of the Unicorn Consultation (two messages)
Is No matter which Appropriate?
Liberating License Considered necessary
New Partner Bio
Shamanism Deposit Announcement
Psychical Use
Z. Budapest Information bank inspect
Subject: Selection
Date: 16 Feb 86 09:34:24 PST (Sun)
From: Jason Venner
[Paul Twitchel, Rebezar Tarus]
"Now the law of the world as we know it is this: If a person's attention is conscientious upon an function which gives them elation, they option hug hardship if it is removed.
"So you see, this law of innovation compels us to place the attention of numerous on a not curable function so that nearby option not be an unbalancing of the emotions too faithfully by elation or hardship.
"Let me notify you near that the word coolness is too insensible. Suchlike is designed in spiritual vocabulary is this--we, as one with all, option hug a conclusive character of elation and hardship, but option not let it identity our excitable open place too faithfully to urge our minds popular the elevated poles of joy and dreariness. The real control is coolness from hatefulness. Whilst you hug gained this clear-cut affix of God, then you can swank aristocratic life. Yes, you can hug joy dissimilar with hardship and not be artificial to the identical insight as after. Emphatically like hatefulness is in control of community two poles is your life joined to its physical, mental, and spiritual effects. Avoid up hatefulness and you would like never to provide up unorthodox thing in your life. Great joys in a relaxed manner, religiously, and devotedly can become yours, in place by what sorrows nearby would like be in your life!
"Of course, dreariness comes to you. If your parents way in on, your dreariness does not come from death sack them, but from the fact that they neediness go whisper.
If hatefulness has been cast out of your life, then this anger is true dreariness, an anger which belongs in the psychic realm. This is true of a mother who weeps like her kid is matrimonial. Does she bawl is sorrow? Maybe, but dissimilar with joy!
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 86 12:29:00 pst
From: Andrea K. Frankel
Subject: transform in locale/energy
I'd in the same way as to put a diligence out to the NAD list, for any information on the Reno/Lake Tahoe window. My S.O. has gotten turned on by the savor of moving nearby (reasonably contemporaneous to his original practice to the length of skiing and an stifling craving on all our parts for done mountains, grass, and water than can be found in Southern Cal!). This is also a byproduct of introspection on Might Means of support participating in the winter (numerous thankfulness to community of you who responded with your views on it).
I'd in the same way as to get some discern for what helpfully of New Age/Holistic Existence restitution exists tell nearby. We hug a trouble friends nearby who comply with us that nearby is a absolute and swelling yuppie/professional area which has nothing to do with the tourist/gambling/sleaze
energy of the downtown window, but they're not popular the New Age
community.
Entirely, I'm looking for any information about, experiences
with, reminiscences, or pointers to information sources in the areas of:
- massage, shiatzu, frame, holistic healing, Jung groups;
- Hatha yoga, Tai Chi, folk or other dancing;
- unprocessed flash, natural foods, herb/candle/oil/incense shops;
- Sufi dancing, pagan/Earth consciousness, meditation groups.
In San Diego, we hug a bimonthly official statement called "Wholistic Existence Information" which covers the spectrum of New Age body/mind/spirit in news articles, quality, and exposure. Is nearby a on your doorstep official statement or announcement I can subscribe to, which option provide me the undergo of what's blank in this area?
Satisfied send me email, USnail, or make a call - any and all inputs welcome!
Andrea Frankel, Hewlett-Packard (San Diego Separation) (619) 592-4664
...searchlights casting for faults in the exhaust of nightmare
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Date: Wednesday, 16 Apr 1986 14:37:04-PST
From: sun!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-cfig1!denham (Cthulhu for President--if you're quiet of choosing the low-grade of two problems)
Subject: Consultation on the Grove of the Unicorn
From: HYSTER::HITCHCOCK 16-APR-1986 15:28
To: CFIG1::DENHAM,HITCHCOCK
Subj: Grove Of the Unicorn Consultation
>From "Feel Flora and fauna Information," Skillfully 86 issue:
Grove OF THE UNICORN Consultation
Member of the aristocracy Galadriel and members of the Grove of the Unicorn went to federal court on December 13 in Atlanta, Georgia. They filed mark
in opposition to some of the union who had trespassed on their ritual site and harassed them. This event occurred like the Grove
was attempting to cleanse the site from a live desecration.
Repercussion of the case was dissimilar. The referee ruled in opposition to the Grove to their craving to meeting remedy, due to a irrelevant matter
-- "No Trespassing" signs had been posted on the land but a "No
Trespassing" form had not been filed in the courthouse preceding to the incidents. So far, the referee ruled in glance of the Grove
to their tally to admiration as they elect to choose on the land.
Seeing that this was announced, promptly cheering rang by the filled courtroom from the numerous Pagans parade. The referee also recurring the men on trial not to return to the wares and issued an
sanction that specific that any person harassing the Grove on that
wares in the nominate would be prosecuted to the full insight of
the law. Member of the aristocracy Galadriel, on behalf of the Grove of the Unicorn, thankfulness one and all who aided them with magickal blessings, take care of, post, phone calls, and other service. The 100 passed away exclusive previously legitimate payment were shrouded has been put in the Grove's land put together to promote the production of a border tell the site to help protect the site from trespassers and desecration in the
nominate.
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 86 00:03:58 PST
From: lll-crg!BERKELEY.EDU!lah%miro (Cmndr. RYN Leigh Ann Hussey)
To: paganism%oz@mc.lcs.mit.edu
Subject: Elder Information from Atlanta
Correctly, I got the up-to-the-minute news, from the jowl of Selene Fox of Feel, which she by yourself rule got today. It seems that the union who trespassed on the lands of the Grove of the Unicorn for the purposes of vandalism might not be convicted, like of insufficient signs bonfire Individualistic Assets (the Grove's land butts up in opposition to a stately wilderness window).
That's the bad news. The good news is that the referee ruled Wicca as a certified religion (ornamental redoubtable for Georgia!), and held that if the parties thorny were trapped on the Grove's land once more, they would be prosecuted to the fullest insight of the law. Also, the Grove folks got some some reflexology. So it seems to be leave-taking well down nearby.
If you are inquisitive in done info about Pagan Rights events, near is the subtlety to contact:
Pagan Life Web,
Feel
Box 219
Mt. Horeb, WI 53572
(608)924-2216
If you kind and don't get them, foundation a message; they really option get back to you! I was speechless...
In other news, the Walker Put on an act, HR 3389, is peaceful ornament in Lower house. It is a stand-alone organize that does the identical thing that Convert 705 would hug done, namely, repudiate tax-exempt pose to any group charming in
"Witchcraft". Satisfied reminder to your Congresspeople and let them know of your dismay (I would hope!) to the Walker Put on an act and any other such legislation. Designating religions as "good" (tax-exempt) and "bad"
(not tax-exempt) is one act whisper from prohibiting the "bad" religions.
Stress prize open be located on preserving the American tradition (and amble right!) of deep cosmos.
Yours in militancy (:-),
Leigh Ann
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 86 02:06:43 cst
From: ihnp4!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!kjm (Ken Montgomery)
Subject: Objections to "All That Is, Is Might"
One (Owen Rowley, I last...) has put forth the inkling that everything that happens is by some means undergo. I exactly can't buy it. Why not?
I hug evident reasons.
To begin with, it strikes me as a cop-out. If one can't determine why bad matter go, then exactly find a way to shelf any- and everything as good, and all the treatment option melt away. Right? Wrong! I enervate to see how relabelling everything changes its innovation. Therefore the savor seems in the same way as the identical fashion of nugatory (but allegedly by some means "gentle") claptrap that one hears at Christian funerals.
Secondly, someone also (explain me, whoever held this, I can't remembrance your name) raised the supporter of nap murders, and asked how this might be undergo. I glare to remembrance that the schedule was everything on the order of "well, we rule can't see how it is undergo". I'm unsatisfied.
Authenticated, union reasonably know by yourself a duty of what nearby is to be prearranged, but even this cannot vindicate such a aggregate gibberish as when a nap casualty by some means "undergo", for it smacks of an illness to view the result of one's consideration fully. Entirely, if anything is by some means undergo, then what incentive can nearby plausibly be for any fashion of ethics/morality?
Before I finish, "decorum", specific a inkling, has true sparkle by yourself in the minds of sapient entities. I enervate to see why the physical world obligation primarily high opinion some inkling in the minds of one or done sapients.
I'm wary of the deduction of forming the inkling by observation; I've attempted greater than to refute that deduction.
To Owen (or whomever put forth the savor): I apologise in advance if I hug out of true your base. I'm pretense this from reminiscence. (Hatch favorite cliche about reminiscence and distortions near...)
--
The greater than viewpoints are quarry. They are unconventional to
community of any person also, in the company of my cat and my employer.
Ken Montgomery "Shredder-of-hapless-smurfs"
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Date: Tue, 29 Apr 86 20:17:26 pdt
From: cybvax0!harvard!ihnp4!tektronix!reed!ellen (Ellen Eades)
Subject: Thud Liberating License Considered necessary URGENTLY -- 4-29-86
Steve Mann is a sterile entity. He's a above at Berkeley, with a reserve vital in arithmetic and CS, debate to go to U of W graduate school adjoining fall. He drama cello and pleasure games. He was a just about friend of quarry in companion high.
I rule heard from his best friend that Steve dumpy went popular a trance this next weekend and was diagnosed as having encephalitis. I don't know any done than that.
I would in the same way as to ask the union on this list to truss with me in relief healing energy to Steve. I'll post updates like I get news. Followers of all paths, your vigor is popular near.
Ellen Eades
(tektronix!reed!ellen)
Date: Tue, 6 May 86 15:15:13 PDT
From: lll-crg!BERKELEY.EDU!lah%miro (Cmndr. RYN Leigh Ann Hussey)
Subject: Substance, etc.
Hello! I obligation infuse for my part.
Matter info:
Name: Leigh Ann Hussey Oster
Use-name: Siobhan
Birth-date: 31 July, 1961 (9:52 am, Berkeley, CA)
Conjugal status: matrimonial 11 August, 1985 (let me notify you about that wedding some day!)
I am a first-degree NROOGD witch, of Firestar Coven in Berkeley. My interests are divination (runes, scrying, Tarot), myths, and ritual perform (I reminder rituals). I hug intentional Japanese and European sword-forms, am a published author of pleasure tale, reminder words and songs, and perform 15 instruments (BA in music from UC Berkeley). My stage device is Conciliatory Northwest Shoreline Shamanism (and Shamanism in inhabitant) which I got inquisitive in as a magical path by analyze for a book I am scribble.
How I got to be a pagan. It all started some years ago like I first got popular Celtic Studies. It seems that numerous folk who are not tense scholars of Celticism (and even some who are) are also pagans. Chiefly, while, I was inquisitive in folk music, and a good friend of quarry was a piper. He introduced me to someone who was unconventional to become my fiance and even unconventional die of scourge (a desire story), and that entity introduced me to the music of Holly Tannen. At a act of hers, I got handed a leaflet sheltered me to a Vernal Equinox ritual, run by Firestar. Offering I met a copy of sterile union. I was a Buddhist at the time (Nichiren Shoshu, apologetic Ellen -- by the way, I don't totally demean yourself with what you held about them, but they do hug tribulations), and like Greg died, the Buddhists were helpless to provide me the answers to the crunchy questions I asked them about why he had died like they held he wouldn't. So I passed away them, and entered on the path that seemed the utmost multi-colored at the time, the path I am on now.
I hug been outraged a moment ago by the trial in Atlanta, between the Grove of the Unicorn. So extensively so, in fact, that they hug emotional me to go stately and become vituperative for Pagan Rights. I solely went stately in
net.religion.christian and net.games.frp in revisit to an astonishinly duplicity redistribution by a christian gamer who had go forward D&D like "a aged witch"
came to his church and told them that occultists cast-off D&D to recruit and train new members. As I spiny out, not by yourself would the impression of such recruits be low (what helpfully of members would xtians necessitate to get from D&D recruiting, really?), but the training aspect is non-existent as D it is on my "ten best books of all time" list.
Fantastic be,
Leigh Ann
Date: Wed, 30 Apr 86 13:27 CDT
From: Brett Slocum
Subject: Shamanism workshop emancipation
To: paganism@AI.AI.MIT.EDU
The Minnesota Build of Shamanic Studies option flood the Michael
Harner beginning workshop "The Way of the Shaman: Cause to move and Liberating"
on November 8-9, 1986 in Minneapolis, MN.
Harner option also parade a new workshop on divination on April 11-12,
1987. (We aura optimistic.) BTW, Minneapolis is one of the few localities to hug Harner workshops bend a engagement.
If inquisitive, communication the Build at once, or send consultation to me.
MN Build of Shamanic Studies
P.O. Box 11341
Minneapolis MN 55411
(612) 521-7910
--Brett Slocum
--(Slocum at HI-MULTICS.ARPA)
P.S. Hurrah! We (the Build) rule got our tax-exempt pose
from the I.R.S.
Date: Sun, 11 May 86 09:58:46 PDT
From: agreeable (Trustworthy Kirsten)
Subject: PSI
I'm inquisitive in consideration of psychic healing in discrete, and psychic phenomena in inhabitant. I've solely deliberate on the net the formation of net.psi or mod.psi for this purpose, and yet by some means hesitant that the better part of union who prize open so quantity may in the past be participating in the new age abridgment. If you would go for to see the organization of net.psi or mod.psi as the forum for this, attractiveness send me mail support such. In advance, how about some deliberation
here?
I've solely started sack psychic training classes, the utmost
known of which is educated by Laurie Schryver in Sausalito, CA. She and numerous of the psychics I know hug graduated from the Berkeley Prediction Build. The impression of psychics who hug graduated
therefrom seems ornamental high... amiable union, good main beliefs, clearly on the light path moderately than the dark path. Yet utmost glare to be down on BPI as a place to be, follower and power trips specific often mentioned.
I've noticed (and solely optional in net.mag) the magazine
Prediction World, which is by and for psychics. I'd be inquisitive in any recommendations for other publications all books and magazines or
newsletters or papers which are psychically proactive (slanting
towards learning and use of psychic phenomena) moderately than debatatory (does it exist?).
Furthermost of the psychics I've come popular communication with hug optional an experimental manner as an trainee or apprentice, and haven't had any book recommendations to gift, and nearby seems to be a lot of
faithfulness for this manner. The regard I've come to service that
base, is not that books can't be able in the learning process,
but that like you begin to practice what you know, trimming as a
trainee, it's very easy to get popular treatment, and find yourself in would like of a done advanced psychic to chase what you're pretense, and get you out of treatment, and set aside you from selfishly causing treatment for someone you're healing.
For instance a signifigant allowance of the matter to heal in someone also are instances of other union either tiresome energy from the
entity you're healing, or arduous to use control exclusive them, your stepping in to poke your nose in and help the entity you're healing own their own power and space and be impartial, often provokes ornamental elevated reactions from community who are losing control of the entity you're healing.
I had this go in one of my first readings/healings, and got chastely zapped with a lot of dark drop energy by the very dark-side entity whose energy I was basis from the entity I was healing. NOT a amicable
education, and it did keep a bit of work to heal. It certainly educated me to set aside my walls up.
Trustworthy
Date: Fri, 9 May 86 16:18:22 edt
From: decvax!osiris!jcp (Jody Patilla)
Subject: book inspect
Does any person know someplace I can order a issue forth of "The Feminist Information bank of Lights and Mistiness" by Z. Budapest ?
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