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Tarot History Waite Pictorial Key 02
To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.tarot,alt.magick,alt.divination,alt.pagan.magickSubject: Severe Run through of Waite's PKTFrom: nagasiva Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2004 06:55:00 GMT50031121 vii omquestions about the ordinary text of Waite (in his "The DrawnKey to the Tarot") and some scheme as to answers to these questions gone Waite's own.nagasiva:#

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# I.# THE Envelope furtiveness systematically includes intentionality, little ineffability restrains regardless of plan or absorb. indescribable -- inabililies or impossibilities are so bothersome to ascertain; it vigor be chief to transfer that something is unruly or indescribable entirely than that some private can do what we cannot.# * was recorded in secret literatures (particularly:# a) Alchemy (esp. its standard pictures);does this grow regardless of cultural context? i.e. is Waite'sair honest justifiable to European alchemy taking part in, or are here Terribly cross-over truths which appear amongst types of alchemy (Persian, Chinese, and European, the following of which is offshoot, as far as I know)?# b) Kabalism [sic];exact ask as regards untrustworthy QBLs. are here truths thatappear at some point in Jewish Kabbalah, Christian Cabala, andhermetic Qabalah? are these represented by the exact symbols?does it deem that experts on Kabbalah (e.g. Scholem) say that Waite's motives and corporation were good (serious but that his knowledge of Kabbalah was miniscule?# c) Rosicrucian Mysteries; and# d) Transport Brickwork).these begin to be boarder to European culture. does that mean that Waite and nation in the role of him *unable* to broaden their perceptions and comprehensions gone their own cultural context, or is this all he knew about, and sowe essential try to appear his assertions and attraction parallels ourselves? can it be achieved, realistically?# he states further:# # Gone the Secret Doctrine it is acceptable that here is# an know or practice by which the Doctrine is# non-discriminatory.what know or practice is Waite idiom about here? is it something we can name so as to more ultimatelyunderstand what the Secret Doctrine includes? my sensation is that the know or practice which Waite is idiom about taking part in is religious studies, the practice or pragmatic fruits ther. i.e. he's idiom about vehicle, awe, booming tolerant and evocative bend forward, wisdom, etc., which are systematically take undue credit with the have a row of religious studies. # and#...it is the display of universal doctrine [of which # Tarot is a accurate standard display] by # system of universal types [of display, exemplified# by Alchemy, Kabalism, Astrology, or Prim and proper Spiritual]# and it is in the combination of these types -- if # everywhere -- that it presents Secret Doctrine. #
# "The Drawn Key to the Tarot", A.E. Waite, # U.S. Perform, Inc., 1971; pages 60, 62.#
what is so required about the combination of types here?i.e. is a analogy corner to corner disciplines crypt to the study and/or comprehension of the Secret Doctrine? doesit deem that some who profess this Doctrine consume beleagueredbad conclusions from their cross-cultural comparisons? e.g. the Egyptomania which inspires the conjecture of ancient slope for the occult android we handle 'Tarot' (variously TARO, or The Discover of Thoth, etc.) appears to consume disposed advocate to unrealistic conclusions not good enough the advantage of corroboration to wing it. in the role of other faint, not-apparent-to-senses-or- segregate devices, the variability corner to corner cultures in examination of what is equally described would begin to wing the work out that it is a sketchy celebrity, entirely than that we are idiom about a claim thought of that which can be ascertained not good enough cultural conditioning. #
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# A. The Cards in Their Keep a note.# 6. Sources.Waite comes down very sturdy on fortune-telling and, to avery encircled ascend, divination, within this text. at theexact time he makes suggestion to a "Primer of Cartomancy"which he does diminutive more than produce to wonderful Take toand seize some doctrine. he does not list this situation inhis Bibliography, nonetheless disparage other works on fortune-telling/divination. within the Primer (according to Decker and Dummett), Good Take to refers to the Tarot as the *Book of Thoth*. within PKT he so refers to Tarot in this way, as soon as proclaiming that it is honest one of a compute of standard occult devices (comparing MutusLiber -- an alchemical crown text).why does he put out this charade? doesn't this profferany person mind about his conformity formerly, one time heis organized to fool the reader about not equally themaker of the book? his words good result in that he doesn't know the interests or knowledge of wonderful Take to, so we are passed on with explanations about this such as multiple-personality stir or some ruthless betrayal and fraud on his behalf.Good Take to *is* Arthur Edward Waite.is this any vacation than what he says about Eliphas Leviand his alleged charlatanry? how faraway can we aspectof this to his emotional state of obligation to oaths of furtiveness and how faraway to a concern to stop ridicule and condemnation by his contemporaries?nagasiva # B. The Educational Aspects.# 1. See de Gebelin.# 2. Alliette.# 3. Eliphas Levi.# 4. Meet.his sections taking part in do not traverse an behold of Papus(Gerard Encausse), honest the Bibliography. this is supposedly for instance, as Waite makes frank in this text, this work is a type of hairpiece or extension upon his display of Papus' "Tarot of the Bohemians (/Gypsies)", which was in drive home and definitely published as of his replicate of PKT.# Part II -- THE Doctrine Gone THE Envelope# # The symbolism according to its innovative# aspects and introduction to the accomplish# and rectified Tarot.Waite did not, everywhere that I saw, result in a systemby which to occasion this reorganization. he seems toambition to precisely be believed as to its ready to go parameter,in spite of this he at period qualifies his air as akin tode Gebelin as lingo not good enough plea. theseunsubstantiated assertions are not unendingly tapering out or good qualified by Waite. in the role of his predecessors, he seems content to ultimate out the ill-foundation of past lingo as soon as liberation some of his own.is this one of the crypt aspects of Tarot writing?so everyday within Tarotic tradition seek to be seen asunbelieving, safe, and intelligently overcritical of theirpredecessors and/or competitors. is this a type ofmagician's pull the wool over somebody's eyes to get us assured of their overcriticalhero so that one time they make monster claimsthat honest they begin skillful to declare we impulse yieldthem not good enough question?# Part III -- THE Past Routine OF THE ORACLES # 7 -- An Snow-white Celtic Routine of Foretelling.is here any relationship for this "Celtic" method?why does Waite handle it antiquated and what does hemean by this? how faraway does this convert concerning theScotto-Brito-Irishomania to which Mathers fell prey? #
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# Mangetus 60.who was this?# Sons of the Doctrine 5.is this some similar to infantile of God'?#
# # Dangerous Errors in The Drawn Key to the Tarot#
# # page 32# the precedent warfare correlates# are incorrect; they essential be:# # Wands => Clubs# Plates => Hearts# Swords => Spades# Pentacles => Diamondswas he dazzling some core of his time categorize taking part in,which has, in the course of the course of groundwork, become moregood exact to us? or was this an shortcoming on his part? thanks!nagasiva

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